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Remix Rc Rock Crawler, new gearbox

tremrej
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Description

1/24 RC rock crawler, with new gearbox

Assembly manual along with bill of material (BOM) now available at https://github.com/tremrej/RCRockCrawler/tree/master#rockcrawler

Note: the original design is not available anymore. I uploaded the original stl files here.

List of part to print: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gyE06sXocmIVC6YyiQa47B3-vM9KMiIj/view?usp=sharing

The Bill Of Material, from memory:

Here's the list of material you'll need to build this little truck:

  • Bearing 8x12x3.5, need 8
  • Bearing 5x8x2.5, need 4
  • A set of M2 self tapping screw. from 4mm to 12mm (or even 16mm?) long.
  • A small piece 2mm stainless steel rod, cut to 13 mm long.
  • A toy motor 130. Try to find the motor with the lowest speed, higher torque. This one is not too bad but a bit pricey: Meishel 2.0 130 2s Motor from outofdarts.com. I had good success with some motor from aliexpress, but not all of them.
  • A DC motor RC speed controller. I can't find the model I bought. I thing it is a small 10a. I use it with 2s lipo battery.
  • 2 servo. Can't remember the model. The size of the body of mine is 23.5x12x24. I also think a SG90 would work. Metal gear is a good idea if you plan to play rough with it.

Version 1.1 (Feb 7, 2022):

  • I updated the frameFront_v2.stl. The original one was a bit tight for the motor.

Version 1.2 (Feb 8, 2022):

  • New frame front/back with proper hole for screw
  • New gearbox front/back with proper hole for screw

Version 1.3 (Feb 13, 2022):

  • New wheel, 26.5 mm. Fit better with the tire I bought. The original wheel were too small.
  • New, stiffer, shock (shock_46mm_1.0_5.45_off.stl). It prevent the front axel to twist when climbing a steep hill.
  • New motor holder for brushless Rocket 1410.

Version 1.4 (March 9, 2022):

  • Updated the plate with a slot for the screws. The holes in the previous version were off a little bit.

Version 1.5 (March14, 2022)

  • New body (body_v3.stl), easy to print: Require support only for the screw plate. See image.

Update, Feb 8, 2022:

Update, Feb 13, 2022:

  • I've tested a brusless motor, Rocket 1410, version 2500KV. The only required mod is a motor holder (back plate) which has a little notch to prevent the motor from twisting. File motorHolder1410.stl. I love this motor. It provides better control at low speed, more realistic. But it's more expansive (40 us$ with controller).
  • I've create a new video where you see there three motors in action. But it's not a face to face comparaison. Sorry.
  • I also create a video showing the assembly of the new gearbox.

Update, March 9, 2022:

Update, January 31, 2026:

  • I uploaded the original file of the shock (Shock_p1.STL and Shock_p2.STL).

Video:

List of part to print: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gyE06sXocmIVC6YyiQa47B3-vM9KMiIj/view?usp=sharing

New gearbox

This machine is a little gem. I like that it is 100% 3D printed (beside screws and bearing). There are some aspect that I felt could benefit from a revision. The main one being the gearbox. The original one has a ratio of 1:5.6. This is too fast. The machine feel like a drift car rather than a crawler.

So I took it on me to design a new one. And I did. It's a big improvement, at least from my point of view. The new ratio is 1:15.9, i.e. three time slower, triple the torque. I'm currently running it with a

cheap motor 130 and the improvement is impressive.

The design of the new gearbox uses the same geometry at the old one such that the rest of the vehicule uses the same original part, except of the center drive shaft which I had to make 1.5 mm longer.

A bigger ratio was the main objective for the new gearbox. Another objective was to make it easier to print. To achieve that I split the gearbox in 4 pieces: 2 pieces for the gearbox and 2 pieces for

the frame. The end result makes the car, specifically the wheel base, about 2 mm longer.

The drawback of the new gearbox is a higher center of gravity. The plateform is higher by almost 10 mm.

Technical info: the gear of the original and new gearbox uses a module of 0.5, i.e. the pitch is 3.1416/2 mm per teeth.

I design the new gearbox using Openscad. Let me know if you are interested by the design file. I can make them available. They need a bit of cleanup before I do so.

If you print the gear for the motor (gearMotor.stl) it's a good idea to use for glue (like cyanoacrylate, aka crazy glue). Just press fit is not good enough when the motor get hot. If you buy the motor with the

gear already installed make sure the gear is a 8 teeth, module 0.5. This is pretty common for a motor 130. You can buy the gear for the motor in brass. It will last longer than printed in PLA.

Other changes (improvements)

* I redesign the connnecting rod for one main reason: the original one were difficult to install and remove. The new one are much easier to install and remove, and easier to print as well.

* I suggest to print the Center_Drive_Shaft_-_P2.STL in TPU for two reason: it provide a bit of flexibility to absorbe the torque of the gearbox going to the axel and it make the Center_Drive_Shaft_-_P1.STL much easier to insert in part 2.

* I redesign the shock. I had no real success at printing the original one. So I designed a new shock which is much simpler to print and they work pretty well. The only drawback is that it doesn't look like real shock. You can print them in PLA or PETG, PETG is a bit better: it doesn't "fatigue" as much as PLA. And PLA is not as flexible as PETG.

* I designed a longer set of hub and drive cup which are 1.5 mm longer. This is good for wider tires. It prevent the tire from touching the connecting rods.

* I also adapted the design of a tires to be printed in TPU. There are good but the grip is not that great: the TPU is not flexible enough. The original design of the tires is from https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:437669.

Observation

There are some discrepancies between the model assemble in the original video and the stl files provided with the original model. I noticed three differences:

* No bearing at the output of the axel. And there is no need to. It works perfectly fine without.

* The ball joint of the lower part of the shock is on the servo holder instead of being on Axle_Case_p4.STL.

* The design of the shock is also different. See the section above where I propose a different type of shock.

Part to pay attention

* There is a recess in the gear G34_P14_p1.STL. This recess is important so that the gear doesn't touch the outer ring of the bearing. I've had good result by using a raft when printing that piece.

* The battery to use are not AAA. They are 10440 which are lithium-ion with a voltage of 3.7 volts each. Two batteries in series give you 7.4 volts. You need that in order for the ESC to work properly and for the motor to provide enough power. I use a 2S lipo battery which provide the same voltage.

Bill of material

* The original BOM as shown in the description of the YouTube video Part 2, of the original model is missing two elements:

* A 2mm smooth rod. You'll need a piece of about 13 mm to insert in M0_5_19T_11T.STL.

* A threaded rod M2. You'll need two pieces of about 10 mm to connect two 5.5_Link_Closed_35mm_C.STL together.

Recommendation

* I used grease (with PTFE) on all the gears and the all the hubs. It help to reduce the wear and it improve the power transfer to the wheels.

Next step

* I plan to try different motor, hoping to find one with higher tocque and less speed. I even ordered a brushless motor. I know, this is much more expensive. Well: That's how I like this truck. I'll update this post if I get good result with these new motors.

* I'd like to design a new body, easier to print. I don't know if I have to skill to do that.

Downloads

centerDriveShaft_15_5mm.stl
505.7 KB
ballLink_29.stl
462.0 KB
ballLink_62.stl
462.0 KB
ballLink_41.stl
462.0 KB
tire_v3.stl
299.5 KB
shock_46mm_0.8_5.45_off.stl
394.6 KB
gearMotor.stl
56.7 KB
firstStageGear.stl
277.8 KB
secondStageGear.stl
305.0 KB
gearboxBack_v2.stl
98.1 KB
frameFront_v2_1.stl
349.9 KB
gearboxFront_v2.stl
111.8 KB
frameBack_v2_1.stl
282.1 KB
wheel_26_5mm.stl
3.1 MB
shock_46mm_1.0_5.45_off.stl
395.4 KB
motorHolder1410.stl
37.0 KB
plate_long_v2.stl
353.3 KB
body_v3.stl
2.8 MB
5.5_ball_Closed.STL
338.5 KB
5.5_ball_Open.STL
511.5 KB
G34_P14_p1.STL
745.4 KB
G34_P14_p2.STL
819.6 KB
Axle_Case_p3.STL
71.2 KB
Axle_Case_p4.STL
60.6 KB
Axle_Case_p1.STL
1.8 MB
Axle_Case_p2.STL
1.1 MB
P14_G34.STL
574.8 KB
Drive_Shaft.STL
659.2 KB
Servo_Holder.STL
191.7 KB
Hub.STL
1.1 MB
Drive_Cup.STL
1.2 MB
Wheel.STL
3.8 MB
Center_Drive_Cup.STL
970.8 KB
Center_Drive_Shaft_-_P1.STL
577.3 KB
Center_Drive_Shaft_-_P2.STL
505.7 KB
Center_Drive_Shaft_-_P2_15.5mm.stl
505.7 KB
Servo_horn_-_5.5_4_ball.STL
512.2 KB
5.5_Link_Closed_35mm_C.STL
676.6 KB
5.5_Link_Closed_42mm.STL
894.4 KB
5.5_Link_Closed_62mm.STL
831.0 KB
Motor_Holder.STL
72.2 KB
Shock_p1.STL
715.3 KB
Shock_p2.STL
977.8 KB